Between 9 and 10 October 2026, Vince_AI published three “slider” LoRAs on Civitai. Every layer in them comes from five sliders by Loraholic and one slider by CrunchyBanana. The files’ own headers name those sources, and the weights confirm it in all 768 layers. Every number on this page is reproducible.
Read each row as a recipe: source + source = the file Vince_AI published. The SHA-256 under each row identifies the exact files analysed.
A .safetensors file starts with a short JSON header in front of the weights, and tools can write free text into its __metadata__ field: the text below was written into Vince_AI’s files by the merge tool that built them, not by us.
{
"__metadata__": {
"source_a": "breast_size_v2_krea2_loraholic.safetensors",
"source_b": "CrunchyBanana_Krea2_BreastSlider_V1.safetensors",
"strength_a": "1.0",
"strength_b": "1.0",
"merge_type": "lora_plus_lora_to_lora",
"rank_mode": "Exact",
"output_dtype": "BF16",
"vince_merge_lab": "1.3.3"
}
}{
"__metadata__": {
"source_a": "skindetails_krea2_loraholic.safetensors",
"source_b": "real_3d_krea2_loraholic.safetensors",
"strength_a": "1.0",
"strength_b": "1.0",
"merge_type": "lora_plus_lora_to_lora",
"rank_mode": "Exact",
"output_dtype": "BF16",
"vince_merge_lab": "1.3.3"
}
}{
"__metadata__": {
"source_a": "brightness_krea2_loraholic.safetensors",
"source_b": "light_krea2_loraholic.safetensors",
"strength_a": "1.0",
"strength_b": "1.0",
"merge_type": "lora_plus_lora_to_lora",
"rank_mode": "Exact",
"output_dtype": "BF16",
"vince_merge_lab": "1.3.3"
}
}python -c "import json,struct;f=open(PATH,'rb');n=struct.unpack('<Q',f.read(8))[0];print(json.loads(f.read(n))['__metadata__'])"
A LoRA layer is a matrix of millions of numbers pointing in a direction in a very high-dimensional space. For each layer we compare that matrix (B·A) in Vince_AI’s file with the same layer in each named source, and then ask how much of it the two sources explain together.
Independent training. Two people training on the same concept, even with the same images and the same recipe, land on directions that barely overlap.
Heavy derivation. Fine-tuning on top of someone’s model leaves similarity high but never perfect: training always moves the numbers.
A copy. The same numbers, possibly multiplied by a constant. This does not occur by training. It occurs by copying.
Built entirely from the named sources. We fit each layer as ca·A + cb·B. R² is the share of the layer the fit explains: 1.000 leaves nothing over, so nothing was trained.
Each square is one layer of Vince_AI’s file: 32 rows for the blocks of the network (28 main blocks and 4 text-fusion blocks), 8 columns for the layers inside a block. The colour says whose file the layer came from. Hover or tap a square for its numbers.
232 layers are a verbatim copy of Loraholic’s Breast Size Slider v2; 24 layers are a verbatim copy of CrunchyBanana’s [KREA2] Breast Slider. CrunchyBanana’s file has only 48 layers (6 blocks). For those 48 positions the tool kept 24 from Loraholic and 24 from CrunchyBanana; every other position comes from Loraholic.
Same grid, same colours.
All 256 layers are Skin Detail Slider + Realistic Slider (Loraholic), added together at 1.0 + 1.0.
All 256 layers are Brightness Slider + Light Slider (Loraholic), added together at 1.0 + 1.0.
For each layer we fit Vince_AI’s layer as ca × source A + cb × source B. If the layer had been trained, c would scatter like noise. Below, one bar per layer and one row per source: the bar’s height is c, in the owner’s colour. A flat wall at the dashed line means every layer carries the source at exactly the strength the header states.
Training never produces a constant. The header says strength_a = strength_b = 1.0, and that is exactly what we measure, layer after layer. In BustMorph Slider each layer takes 1.0 of one source and 0.0 of the other: a copy, not a blend.
Loraholic’s five sources went up between 24 Jun and 15 Jul 2026. CrunchyBanana’s slider went up on 9 Oct 2026, 21:37 UTC. Vince_AI’s three files followed between 9 Oct 2026, 21:33 UTC and 10 Oct 2026, 06:56 UTC.
7 h 52 min after CrunchyBanana uploaded [KREA2] Breast Slider, Vince_AI published BustMorph Slider with 24 of its layers inside, behind paid early access until 25 Oct 2026.
Hitting similarity 1.0000 in a single layer by chance is comparable to guessing a 40-digit number on the first try. These three files do it in 768 layers at once: against one named source alone in BustMorph Slider and against the exact sum of both named sources in SkinRelic Realism Slider and LumaShift Exposure Slider.
And the files do not leave it to statistics: the header of each one names its two sources and the tool that merged them.
There is one process that produces this result: running other creators’ files through a merge tool.
python -c "import json,struct;f=open(PATH,'rb');n=struct.unpack('<Q',f.read(8))[0];print(json.loads(f.read(n))['__metadata__'])"